fly at night

14 Sep

White House Changes Tone On Illegals And Health Insurance

Congressman Joe Wilson’s outburst at last Wednesday’s joint session of congress was unacceptable. That fact, however, does not permit the proponents of health care (health insurance?) reform to present their own spin on the facts.

E.J. Dionne writes:

“There are also those who claim that our reform efforts would insure illegal immigrants. This, too, is false. The reforms — the reforms I’m proposing would not apply to those who are here illegally.”

In fact, President Obama has not presented “his plan” to the public. Since there are three, four, or five plans out there are they all his? Of course not.

The public has had access to HR 3200 and that is what they are talking about. On the issue of illegal aliens receiving health care the Republicans have attempted to pass two amendments that would strengthen the bills language so that the writers of the Regulations (the folks that you will really want to watch) could not misinterpret congressional intent.

The AP did a fact check on this issue and sided with the President.

THE FACTS: The facts back up Obama. The House version of the health care bill explicitly prohibits spending any federal money to help illegal immigrants get health care coverage. Illegal immigrants could buy private health insurance, as many do now, but wouldn’t get tax subsidies to help them. Still, Republicans say there are not sufficient citizenship verification requirements to ensure illegal immigrants are excluded from benefits they are not due.

This is all well and good but the Congressional Research Service (the folks who analyze the bills so that members don’t have to read them) disagrees with the AP. Here is an excerpt of page 4 with emphasis added:

Under H.R. 3200, all legal permanent residents (LPRs),23 nonimmigrants, and unauthorized aliens who meet the substantial presence test (defined above) would be required to obtain health insurance. Noncitizens meeting the definition of nonresident aliens (e.g., temporary visitors, temporary workers in the United States for less than 183 days in the year) would not be required to obtain health insurance. Notably, the IRC does not contain special rules for individuals who are in the United States without authorization (i.e., illegal or unauthorized aliens). Instead, the IRC treats these individuals in the same manner as other foreign nationals—an unauthorized individual who has been in the United States long enough to qualify under the substantial presence test is classified as a resident alien; otherwise, the individual is classified as a nonresident alien. Thus, it would appear that unauthorized aliens who meet the substantial presence test would be required under H.R. 3200 to have health insurance.

Apparently Mr. Obama recognized a disconnect between his statements and HR 3200. MSNBC reports the following:

The question, as we all know, arises from the Wilson “You lie” outburst, and the core claim that notwithstanding specific bill language barring illegal immigrants from participating in the “exchange,” as a practical matter, there is no way of verifying the citizenship of applicants — which is the current state of play. Republicans say that then means illegal immigrants would end up being enrolled in plans — bill language or no bill language.

Today, for the first time as far as we know, the administration is backing a provision that would require proof of citizenship before someone could enroll in a plan selected on the exchange.

Here, the administration also concedes that hospitals would be compensated with public funds for the care of undocumented immigrants.

In short, both sides of this debate have to be careful in making definitive statements. It is important to get the bill correct because the writers of the Regulations will have the ability to write far reaching requirements beyond the bill. Can’t happen? I spent 20 years interpreting legislation and then arguing with the writers of the regulations regarding legislative intent. Be careful as this bill could become the world’s largest HMO with bureaucrats, not insurance companies, denying coverage because the program is over budget.

One Response to “White House Changes Tone On Illegals And Health Insurance”

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    Brittancus Says:

    Of all the Immigration enforcements laws that really works E-Verify has settled in to removing illegal immigrants from the workplace. But there is a “Sunset Provision” that could determine its future, since it’s specially working for the millions of jobless Americans? Supposedly E-Verification expires on September 30, only days after a Federal judge turned down a desperate delay from the despicable Special interest lobbyists led by the US Chamber of Commerce. On September 8 E-Verify, a contingency of the SAVE ACT was fully implemented mandating that all federal contractors and sub-contractors–MUST–use this computerized identification system.
    The American people must understand their is tremendous pressure on anemic members of both political parties to dismantle, store or hinder the E-Verify process as they are the puppets of rich business enterprises.

    We must endeavor to continue on raising our voices against the powerful forces that think nothing more than to destroy this valuable commodity called E-Verify. Overtime it will rid from every workplaces of millions of illegal workers, who think they are safe from government intervention. It will save billions of dollars being exported to other lands and sever the tolerant welfare programs, health care, education accessed by illegal low wage earners. The expedited message will spread and these lawbreakers will realize that it’s fruitless to keep on applying for jobs. Eventually families will start to pack-up and depart for every corner of the earth. But it’s up to the American voter to keep relentlessly calling the Washington switchboard 202-224-3121contacting their politicians.

    Evaluate each lawmaker at NUMBERSUSA or JUDICIAL WATCH and command them to enforce E-Verify permanently. Not Voluntary for every business, but a mandatory addition for each employer. Fulfill their obligation to build the fence according to Rep. Duncan Hunter R-CA. Keep training the regular police according to the Federal 287 G directive,. Not to Rescind the No Match letter or desist ICE raids or weaken any other enforcement law, such as the 1986 Immigration Control & Reform Act. NOW IT’S UP TO YOU? STARTLING WEBSITE! GOOGLE—IMMIGRATIONCOUNTERS.

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